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Richard Dawkins exposes homeopathy for what it is

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Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist, author, atheist) takes on the pseudo-science of homeopathy and explains why it's no more than an expensive placebo funded with tax money. Taken from: The Enemies of Reason. Episode 2: The Irrational Health Service (2007)
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Georg Helpenstein-Michels (7 дней назад)
ok now and my last comment look at time stamps 12:14 to 12:44 for me that is the essence
Georg Helpenstein-Michels (7 дней назад)
I am weeping for the pharmaceutical industry. I am a pharmacist with a "severe" scientific background, but please stop this unbelievable nonsense about the industry working for the good of human mankind…. some decades ago this might have been a point and for the ones who actually "invent" new medicine that still might be an inspirational agent… but the CEO´s please dont mention it... otherwise i might have to throw up……….
Georg Helpenstein-Michels (7 дней назад)
every kind of medicine uses the human mind to function in a optimal way. I would say that probably a factual non functional homoepathic remedy might work better in the hands of a versatile healthcare taker than a proven medicine in the hands of a moron. And to a certain degree this is proven. If you take the human "spirit" out of the equation homeopathy is probably nonsense if you take it in its a way to make some humans happy and that might help their bodies to get better
one lap master (26 дней назад)
Richard Dawkins: bull shit detector extraordinaire.
Ranjiv Kurup (29 дней назад)
Is it German? Apparently, Christian Friedrich Samuel Hahnemann (German: [ˈhaːnəman]; 10 April 1755 – 2 July 1843) was a German physician, best known for creating the pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine called homeopathy.
marcelococteau (1 месяц назад)
Not understanding one thing + being manipulated by pharmacy industry fake propaganda = ignorant "documentary", ignorant comments = people being people, history repeating
Simon Finch (1 месяц назад)
Homeopathy is so useless that thousands in the Third World get paid to watch these videos and make nasty comments. Given most normal people don't actually seek out videos of something they think is rubbish.
Conventional science has the tendency to be quite conservative in accepting novel ideas, particularly those that break with long and well-founded theories, insisting (not unreasonably) that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. But … It taxes one's credulity to think that for nearly 200 years every practitioner and patient of homeopathy has, as its opponents expressly and repeatedly point out, been consistently either wrong in their reporting of methods and results, intentionally lying, stupid, or delusional. Indeed, would it not be more rational to assume that in homeopathy, we have met a phenomenon that we neither understand nor can explain given our present state of scientific knowledge? Perhaps it may be that as yet we lack the technology to assess it accurately: perhaps our instruments of measurement are insufficiently sophisticated. It is certainly true that to date, the field of homeopathy has failed to provide an explanation for its mechanism. The hypotheses for the mechanism of action are naturally often thought by proponents to be biophysical rather than pharmacological because the substance is diluted beyond Avogadro’s number, but this failure to elaborate an underlying mechanism seems to bear no relationship to its success in practice. It is simply untrue, as its opponents repeatedly claim, that there is a lack of quality research documenting its clinical efficiency. One very recent study showed a statistically significant alteration of gene expression by a homeopathic dilution of Gelsemium sempervirens, a medicinal plant employed as an anxiolytic. Another study which was a prospective randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled study in adults showing homeopathic potassium dichromate decreased tenacious tracheal secretions and resulted in earlier extubation in intubated COPD patients compared to controls. A more recent prospective, observational, longitudinal study of individualized homeopathic medicines used adjunctively in 30 children with asthma showed statistically significant improvement in severity, frequency of nocturnal asthma attacks or awakenings, use of inhalers and oral corticosteroids, as well as pulmonary function test parameters at 3 and 6 months. A current review article on homeopathic research in the treatment of respiratory allergies and asthma reviewed evidence from controlled trials that were deemed to be of high quality. The authors concluded that homeopathy may offer possible options to conventional treatment of respiratory allergies and asthma. There were 288 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) of homeopathy published as of 2013, of which 45% were positive, 45% inconclusive, and less than 10% negative. To dismiss homeopathy out of hand because we cannot grasp it's mechanics - to assume that all of the scientific discoveries to be made have been made - seems not only irrational and unscientific, but expressly anti-scientific.
Jim Snake (3 месяца назад)
"you would need to imbibe every atom in the solar system" holy shit I'm dying why was that so funny
lxmzhg (3 месяца назад)
Dawkins is a false authority so he cannot be trusted on his biased views regarding homeopathy, and moreso, you cannot trust anyone who believes in the pseudo-science of evolution.
paul w (4 месяца назад)
Dawkins is such a liar A serious dodo. He supports fraudulent research without batting his knowitall eyelid's
Jeremy (5 месяцев назад)
The facial expressions of the guy Dawkins talks to at 11:00 are straight out of Clockwork Orange.
Jeremy (5 месяцев назад)
The good news is that the NHS stopped funding homeopathy recently.
kefsound (5 месяцев назад)
Dawkins is completely missing the point of what's behind placebo effect.
Matteo Prezioso (5 месяцев назад)
Right this morning I put a drop of laxative in the ocean. Good luck with your holidays lads.
bro ballistic (5 месяцев назад)
Pleaaaase. Does anyone know which journal articles he was talking about in the middle?
Raymond Stemmer (5 месяцев назад)
The placebo effect !!!
Skeptic Jesus (5 месяцев назад)
Since when Tom hanks is a doctor?
Dorian Philotheates (5 месяцев назад)
I’m all for homeopathy: its adherents fully deserve it, and I am willing to fund it just for the entertainment.
justmadeit2 (5 месяцев назад)
I drink good quality English beer. Does this count as a homeopathic treatment ? ;)
Liza Garb (5 месяцев назад)
Truth and an utter lie are in the same room
Edward Gerwer (5 месяцев назад)
Placebo Effect
Jacques Nicolay (5 месяцев назад)
I’m going to go to a gas station and buy the 24 packs of water and take the brand off and write on there “poison ivy, diabetes, and cancer” and charge $29.99 a bottle :D or is that not enough? Lmao
Jean van Zyl (5 месяцев назад)
500 million users worldwide? There’s a reason.
Joel J (5 месяцев назад)
Don't underestimate the placebo effect. Scientists can't explain how that works either. It's the reason double blind tests are done. Prescription drugs kill thousands every year.
MrHEYERG (5 месяцев назад)
I have been told for nine years now that there is nothing wrong with me so I have to quack myself with the best information available to me, since the medical professional refuses to help. What else can I do?
wafublah (5 месяцев назад)
Is UK still funding this scam?
Rev. Jack (5 месяцев назад)
If you ignore the many hundreds of double blind studies, some of which have been published in the most respected medical journals, then you are not advocating for science but for your personal prejudices. Emotional fervor, a sense of righteousness and a sciencier than thou attitude are appealing, especially when backed by the current authorities. But when you ignore evidence that points in other directions, you are not really practicing science, you are pretending science. Here is an article by a Nobel scientist who is looking at some of the actual research. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/luc-montagnier-homeopathy-taken-seriously_b_814619.html You don't have to believe homeopathy works but if you never can examine evidence contrary to your own beliefs then you can hardly be considered impartial to truth or scientific.
Jbirtwisle (5 месяцев назад)
Maybe I'm missing something but can someone please explain what professor Dawkins means when he says "that to get one molecule of the active substance, you 'd have to imbibe all the atoms in the solar system". Surely if you did that you would end up with every molecule in the solar system, which would be a great number?
Tommy Dies (5 месяцев назад)
Honestly, the power of the placebo is underrated by both homeopathics, who deny it exists, and normal doctors, who insist on using actual drugs. The placebo is a "drug" that has zero side effects, and most experimental drugs fail to perform better than it in clinical trials! How are we not using this amazing "drug"? Placebos should genuinely be considered in healthcare for minor afflictions, where doctors are literally paid to lie to patients and tell them this "drug" will cure their minor illness, especially to replace things like antibiotics, which are far too commonly prescribed.
Bethan Moss (6 месяцев назад)
😮... Just water?!
Jøsh (6 месяцев назад)
I don't usually watch the opening ads, but when i see Jordan Peterson, i stick around.
Grobsop (6 месяцев назад)
A crusader of reason in this dEluded world of utter stupidity and ignorance
Helga Otto (6 месяцев назад)
Richard Dawkins probably has some kind of childhood trauma. He doesn't seem to be aware at all, that his almost religious obsession with the scientific method is abnormal.
benjamin donaldson (6 месяцев назад)
Pretty sure that for a doctor, this guy makes a great homeopathe
benjamin donaldson (6 месяцев назад)
Why do they do it? Money.
Matthew Parkin (6 месяцев назад)
Placebo effect of the water solutions plus patients sitting down and talking to a doctor that takes his time on them
Citizen #00293764 (6 месяцев назад)
But who is to say the placebo effect isn't a real effect?
Citizen #00293764 (6 месяцев назад)
Reality is more mysterious than the materialism theory gives credit. If the double slit experiment tells us that reality isn't there until it is observed, doesn't that mean we create our reality? Can you see the error, the fundamental error. You thought it took a long time for them to accept the sun was the centre of the solar system, a few hundred years after it was first suggested. Try seeing how long it takes for science to realise that the observer and the observed are very much connected.
Park Tamaroon (6 месяцев назад)
Since more dilution makes a stronger medicine, how could anyone ever need to refill a prescription ever? Just keep adding water to the last drop in the bottle. But be careful, it gets stronger every time!
Overfiend002 (6 месяцев назад)
It’s obvious that the only reason the doctor is attempting to defend his practice is because it gives the disingenuous prick a tidy income
Scott B (6 месяцев назад)
he is a con man. he is making a living selling people nothing. He probably laughs his ass off behind closed doors. At the same time I have no sympathy for the fools who fall for this shit. The tax payers however shouldn't have payed a penny.
DR RAJESH MESA (6 месяцев назад)
Dear Mr/Ms.Corristo89, I dont know what is the credibility you have to speak and declare scientifically about Homeopathy. I advise you to read the book Homeopathy: Science Or Myth? By Bill Gray MD. You can search in Google Books.
Bluebell River (6 месяцев назад)
Can homeopathy stop conception?
R. Crompton (6 месяцев назад)
I suffered from chronic allergies to certain types of grasses beginning in the late 1950's. My parents were then advised by a MD specialist that I should try weekly injections of a special serum that hopefully, would control the problem. It didn't. Essentially, the serum was an experimental, homeopathic form. Because of its failure to provide even minor improvement, I switched to a series of over-the-counter medications which proved to be just as useless. I suffered for many years, especially during the Spring.when pollination was at its highest levels. Then in the early '90's, I was introduced to a Swiss homeopathic remedy that was available in a sub-lingual, pill form. I began to use it with the same doubts that I had held for years. But to my surprise, I found relief -- at least an 80% improvement within a couple of days. Quite naturally, I continued to use that homeopathic compound every Spring since. There's nothing else that works for me. Homeopathy isn't a miracle panacea. It can work for some people but not for others. They who have not received any relief from homeopathic remedies ought not to label them all as ineffective, expensive and derived from "pseudo science." I have found one that does work; whereas all the scientifically-prepared compounds coming out of the major pharmaceutical laboratories proved to be a waste of my money.
Kerrie Anne (6 месяцев назад)
I wonder if it is some sort of consciousness? look at those scientist who got food poisoning from a glass of water, the water's memory of what they were working on ( poison warfare ) altered the water's structure , it really makes you wonder if true kindness and attention to the patients is maybe the healing, the water maybe holding the energy of kindness ? Maybe we truly are in a matrix and as Renae Decartes considered nothing is real !
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
This is a textbook case in how to be unscientific, prejudiced and let prior-bias and opinion get in the way of 'research'. Spoiler: the whole program was designed around the protocol of eliminating anything positive encountered with regards homeopathy and the other modalities 'investigated'.
taxfreedollars (6 месяцев назад)
Some people believe that Pharmaceutical companies and Doctors are only in it to make money. This belief is fuelled by the big Pharma and anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists. The only problem with this belief is if you have a very serious medical problem and rely only on homeopathy, the chances are very high that you will die.
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
no worries
taxfreedollars (6 месяцев назад)
Paul, Thanks.
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
if you say so
taxfreedollars (6 месяцев назад)
Paul,  Fool haha.
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
liar haha
ryand76 (6 месяцев назад)
Is there pooh in that stuff?
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
there's more poo in your head than in a remedy--they use double distilled water usually.
Phatec (6 месяцев назад)
Placebo effect works so well on the less intelligent.
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
your comment is proof of this
Kathryn Vernon (6 месяцев назад)
It is very obvious that you will need at least another lifetime to understand energy. You show great ignorance. Homeopathy is quantum physics and beyond. Why do the Royal family support homeopathy? They obviously understand the concept. It works. Homeopathy does not kill unlike pharmaceutical drugs. How does it cure the ailments of animals?
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
nice comment smart person
Steven Webster (6 месяцев назад)
Thanks Kathryn, if I didn’t already inherently know that homeopathy was a croc, your mention of the royal (dysfunctional) family’s endorsement of it has surely cemented my disbelief in this quack theory
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
pure comedy, thanks kathryn!
barbyonabike (6 месяцев назад)
A homeopath walks into a pub. He asks for a whisky and water, so the barman gives him a tiny drop of whisky in a bathful of water.
paul w (6 месяцев назад)
usoally for something to be funny one needs a punchline...
Doryun (6 месяцев назад)
People want to buy into pseudo-science, go for it; it's your money. Buy when I am paying my taxes towards something which is clearly pseudo-science, due to other people's lack of education, you can fuck right off.
tobo86 (6 месяцев назад)
That moment you realise you’ve been revising the wrong thing for the exam this whole time
Christopher Teale (6 месяцев назад)
Homeopathic research is... Dilute
Matthew Collins (6 месяцев назад)
It works. It cured my madness. Sausages, flying pizzas, bakewell tarts
Alexfolledemoi (6 месяцев назад)
HE's right and all...But as IF the 'real' pharmaceutical lobby wasn't the biggest of them all
Larry Lund (6 месяцев назад)
Dawkins is a farkin idiot.
Frederik Olsen (6 месяцев назад)
as you see we have wooden floors, you hardly see this in public hospitals. right... i wonder fucking why.
Tayler Daye (6 месяцев назад)
The fact that the doctor isn't intelligent or intellectually honest enough to admit that his patients boasting benefits of these water pills is simply a placebo remedy is extremely concerning...
Lost&Found (6 месяцев назад)
This vid cured my yeast infection.
TheRecreator (6 месяцев назад)
Imagine going to the doctor’s and Richard Dawkins is just fucken there in the corner
Patrick (6 месяцев назад)
The funding for the hospital has now been stopped (for real). There's a sign saying "for repeat prescriptions please use your tap".
Patrick (6 месяцев назад)
As parodied brilliantly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0
Joy Harmon (6 месяцев назад)
This is misreprenstation of homeopathy.
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
+Joy Harmon "There are many kinds of homeopathy" - nope. what you mean is that homeopaths usually dabble in other dubious forms of witchcraft such as acupuncture and cupping, which also do not (and cannot) work. herbal medicines _can_ work, but i'm sure you know what you call herbal medicine that's been demonstrated to work? it starts with "m".
M C (6 месяцев назад)
Homeopathy is a farce. Nothing more.
Joy Harmon (6 месяцев назад)
There are many kinds of homeopathy. I'm from the US, so there will be differences. However, I can't imagine there aren't homeopathic doctors who actually use herbal medicines, as well as non-traditional treatments such as acupuncture and cupping in the UK.This report leaves the impression that this water treatment is all there is to homeopathy. I am shocked that the UK doesn't require homeopathic doctors to be certified. In the US, they have to be certified.
Ruben Wahab (6 месяцев назад)
Joy Harmon How exactly?
Scott Gallant (6 месяцев назад)
People love being conned.
SapidSalamander (6 месяцев назад)
As a chemist, homeopaths piss me off to no end.
My Frequencies (6 месяцев назад)
8:27 "We're dealing with an entirely new force of physics, something unknown to science". Not new, as old as the hills - but yes, certainly unknown to science.
Green Tea (6 месяцев назад)
Unproven is an understatement. The concept of homeopathy is idiotic nonsense. Such minute concentrations of the so-called "active" symptom-mimicking ingredient as are called for in this pseudo-medicine would be totally eclipsed by all manner of unknown and uncontrollable impurities which would be unavoidably present in comparable quantities in any aqueous solution, all competing for the postulated "therapeutic" effect. The nett result could never be anything but zero at best, or all kinds of unpredictable consequences if this nonsensical theory of homeopathy were to have any foundation in reality. Reductio ad absurdum. This is blatant quackery, unless it is viewed as nothing more than an outrageously-priced placebo. As such, any sample of distilled water would do the job, and the same distilled water would be equally as effective as any homeopathic product for any medical condition you care to imagine.
fer (6 месяцев назад)
Placebo can be hepful in certain illnesses like psychosomatic problems.
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
of course. but a twix is just as effective as a $20 homeopathic potion.
Lobos222 (6 месяцев назад)
Leap of SCAM. How, the money...
Rachel From England (6 месяцев назад)
Survival of the fittest. Homeopathic medicine exists so the stupid people take this instead of taking real medication and die off sooner.
Petra Kann (6 месяцев назад)
Snake Oil Salesmen Disgrace that the tax payer funds this crap
Petra Kann (6 месяцев назад)
Well the Placebo effect can produce real and measurable outcomes in the Human body. Much cheaper to have a cup of tea if you believe it will cure the illness you're suffering from
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
7:01 is hilarious - dawkins can't keep a straight face
Mojo (6 месяцев назад)
theres plenty of homeopathy that works very very well, it cured my gerd, it fixed my fathers prostate problem. dont boo hoo it because of a few dodgy practitioners. all doctors do is give you drugs that only stop the symptoms, not fix the issue
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
lol don't be ridiculous. did you watch this video?
Will Sterben (6 месяцев назад)
Ridiculous, we all know that you should Smell To Get Well!
perkyporkpie (6 месяцев назад)
It's all complete bullshit. However the consultancy is always very detailed and people get a strong empathetic bond with the doctor-that's why it 'works'.
Scotty Russell Music (6 месяцев назад)
if a doc prescribes a placebo and it makes a patient feel better then why the fuck stop?
Ruben Wahab (6 месяцев назад)
Scotty Russell Music Because the root of the symptoms isn't cured, and could in untreated cases turn for the worse
Jim Butler (6 месяцев назад)
I’m going to start a homeopathy addition clinic... to try to wean people off these addictive substances.
monstersince (6 месяцев назад)
homepathy helped me stop taking prescription drugs. we live in an overdosed society of pharmaceutical companies over subsubscribing. homeopathic remedies are expensive water no one is fooled. but remember doctors are prescribing worse shite. i think i'll have a brandy
monstersince (6 месяцев назад)
not exactly but you just summed up religious fools eeeaten
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
so you're saying lying to yourself helped you?
monstersince (6 месяцев назад)
i wanted to come off the drugs the military prescribed me. mother suggested a homeopath called Ruth an ex SRN more as a psychotherapist. she helped me a lot by listening and talking to me where a health service couldnt or wouldnt. i appreciated her, her support and her dietry and health suggestions including magnesium vitamins b and d etc. during detox.
Millbrook1974 (6 месяцев назад)
A guy I knew was addicted to homeopathy. One day he overdosed by forgetting his meds.
00daveyr (6 месяцев назад)
This man should have his doctorate removed, he doesn't know the molecular structure of water? it has two hydrogen molecules and one oxygen.
wardropper (6 месяцев назад)
Well, at least he exposes homoeopathy for what he thinks it is...
Duder McDudey (6 месяцев назад)
if you put bullets into water, dilute it to 1 : 100^30, put it in a water pistol and spray at someone, does it kill instantly?
Josh ______ (6 месяцев назад)
placebo effect + being nice to people. doesn't sound so bad....
Adon Lando (6 месяцев назад)
There are two kinds of people in this world; those who are superstitious, and those take advantage of those superstitions. No?
Adon Lando (6 месяцев назад)
eeeaten , ah yes, thanks for pointing that out. There is hope for mankind.
eeeaten (6 месяцев назад)
i think there may be a third kind who want nothing to do with superstition and aren't into exploitation.
donkeykonghero (6 месяцев назад)
I have estimated there are more than 80% of people in this world that can easily be brain washed. They lacked the ability to make basic reasoning.
frank zappa's pussy (6 месяцев назад)
what Dawkins shows is that one placebo is no better than another.. however - that in itself is no reason to abandon a placebo when it calls itself "homeopathy" ..
frank zappa's pussy (6 месяцев назад)
placebos do work and have no side effects.. obviously if one relies on a placebo for a serious problem when something more substantial is necessary - there is a problem not being properly treated.. but i suspect that there are many times that a person is better off with a cheap placebo - rather than an expensive poison..
Mike Summers-Smith (6 месяцев назад)
You overlooked the importance of succussion. You're supposed to bang each of your dilutions against the Holy Bible, or they won't work It's probably already in this thread, but Mitchell & Webb (especially for the homeopathic lager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0
Meursault (6 месяцев назад)
Ahahaha the image of him dropping a bit of purple dye into a lake and walking away with that air of smug self-satisfaction he always has made me fucking giggle. Even those ducks seem to be thinking "What the fuck are you doing, mate?" I agree with him, I just think he's a prick.
Shashi Puri (6 месяцев назад)
The video made me want to go pee! 😂
Illiminatie overlord Gurglekoks (6 месяцев назад)
I feel like the guy at 6:00 knows it's bullshit. But he can't say that of course, his livelihood depends on it. And it would kill the placebo effect that might help his patients.
steven G (6 месяцев назад)
why are we good at placebo an medicine isnt? did she really say that lol
Rose Moon (7 месяцев назад)
This thread goes to show so clearly how the unfathomable ignorance of someone as blinkered as Dawkins will inevitably attract large numbers of equally ignorant and blinkered followers .. I guess like attracts like. Dawkins looks so miserable... maybe he should try homeopathy for a change ? There are plenty of studies showing the effectiveness of homeopathy , but those who for whatever reasons of their own want to believe it doesnt work, just wont bother to look in the right direction. Ignorance is a choice, and all Dawkins has done is expose his !!! .. ...
Ragesauce (7 месяцев назад)
Take any frame of that doctors eyes and you will not see remorse or accountability, but a vacant cavity of deceit.
Simon Vance (7 месяцев назад)
Dawkins is a modern day witch hunter on everything alternative..still believing that darwinism is the be all and end all, what a joke..
Hitch Hiker (7 месяцев назад)
Mr Astrologer needs to look up the meaning of the word ‘integrity’. Goes something like this: “Integrity – the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.” He says “I don’t believe in the experiment” (whatever that means) Dawkins is suggesting. If he was honest he would be saying “I know the experiment (as shown by James Randy) will expose Astrology as a sham and consequently me as a charlatan”. People with morals don’t peddle ideas which they know to be bullshit. He insists Astrology works even though his body language suggests he knows it doesn’t. Astrologer = dishonest and showing low moral principles = lack of integrity.
Laurence King (7 месяцев назад)
Think for yourself, question authority.
Majin Perez (7 месяцев назад)
Lol

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