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It's Elon Musk vs. Warren Buffett in the Fight for the Future of Solar

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Jan. 28 -- SolarCity, America’s largest manufacturer and leaser of solar panels, was welcomed into Nevada with economic incentives. But then Nevada’s Public Utilities Commission started charging homes with solar panels more to use the public grid. This is bigger than a fight over solar energy - Nevada Energy, is part of Warren Buffett’s business empire, and Elon Musk is behind SolarCity. The outcome of fight in Nevada could set the course for solar energy adoption across the country. (Video by Ali Withers)
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Max Meier (7 дней назад)
The vast majority of people watching this do not understand anything about power distribution. Unfortunately, many of them can vote on this subject.
Mannu Dwivedi (8 дней назад)
Buffet should go for bigger solar installation ,I mean he should go for manufacturing solar industry in process will make clean world...he is the man of vision ,I'm sure buffet is investing solar industry big way
I_Lean_ Right (14 дней назад)
We all must support Elon, the world controls are moving against him hard right now .
Marijn Zwijsen (18 дней назад)
There sould be a company called battery city, so these people can love off grid
The Ultimate Reductionist (20 дней назад)
Why do ALL these FUCKHEADS who ridicule George Soros over NOTHING IMPORTANT, NOTHING that he did wrong, not stringing up Warren Buffett & hanging him to death for his ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL FASCISM, TRYING to ILLEGALLY charge solar panel homeowners MORE for protecting the environment?
Nikita Webber (21 день назад)
Peak energy use is in the dark so solar isn't the answer, they were right to jack up peak period costs because u still need the same number of power plants with or with out solar but they still have to be paid for. These people got stung because u can't trust the government or the democrat lies. I'd be suing the solar company's for covering the facts. I don't get blaming buffet...
Nikita Webber (21 день назад)
"Gimme gimme everyone else's carbon tax dollars" solar is a bit of a scam.
Nikita Webber (21 день назад)
He gives a kW and wants one back when he needs it..... At night. Aahh
Nikita Webber (21 день назад)
It's so nice when solar panels are all made in a foreign country so the reality is out of sight and out of mine. I've never seen an environmental impact study of producing and recycling a solar panel.
lakeguy65616 (24 дня назад)
the solution is electrical storage, grid-scale batteries and home scale like Tesla's wall.
Kick boxer 1981 S (29 дней назад)
im with Musk
Ming Chinese Language Instructor (1 месяц назад)
Musk is the man. Buffet is the old man... dying.
Timothy Patitsas (1 месяц назад)
It would take more capital, but if these existing solar owners put in sufficient battery storage, and switch to electric cars, perhaps they can use all the solar they are generating themselves PLUS reduce their electricity bills to zero AND stop paying for gasoline. I think this is the most obvious solution, prior to running the actual numbers.
Timothy Edwards (1 месяц назад)
since this video is almost 3 years old, i was wondering if we could get an update on the situation.
Kram (1 месяц назад)
Warren Buffett is scum. We need to go solar soon, our species depends on it.
Michael Mahoney (1 месяц назад)
Who specifically by name and address are those bureaucrats and business lowlifes promoting or defending the greed and immoral actions .
somethin somethin (1 месяц назад)
Yep let's pay off these gov subsidised solar panels in 8 years for pa els that last 12-16 years
somethin somethin (1 месяц назад)
@0:25 "Biggest nuclear reactor in our universe which is the sun" and, you lost me...
ROBERT ANDERSON (1 месяц назад)
I moved to Arizona because of this. I just made it under the wire, and now I am tho only one in my neighborhood that is "Grandfathered" into Arizona's "Net Metering" plan
Bad News (1 месяц назад)
Get completely off the grid. Generate and store your own energy. Who cares if they won’t let you. Rugged individualism
King Nothing (1 месяц назад)
warren buffet you scandalous old super rich greedy bastard warren has his hands in every cookie jar he wont die he will buy some new organs or have his concieness uploaded into bill gates robots by microsoft 🤤🤖 then him bill and disney enterprises will rule the world and your childrens minds moohoohahahaha elon will still be musky 💩🙈🙉🙊
Jake Eaves (1 месяц назад)
all of this can be solved through power walls
Sean S. Lally (1 месяц назад)
When I say Buffet you say Bitch! Buffet!
Ioannis virk (1 месяц назад)
people need to go off grid. all they care is about money and not the environment. or you as home resident. They are dirty business men.
Brett DeLong (1 месяц назад)
Never be the first or last to adopt a technology.
David Ball (1 месяц назад)
When extreme weather destroys your house, your neighborhood, your livelihood, will you be able to hold to account all those that fought against renewable energy? Because we really should be allowed to. Their greed will make us all victims of climate change for many generations to come.
understanding7i (1 месяц назад)
Every single one of these homeowners are missing the most powerful ingredient in a solar panel system. THE DAMN BATT
understanding7i (1 месяц назад)
MikeUChannel (1 месяц назад)
Add a Tesla Powerwall
tyler wilson (1 месяц назад)
So what happened?
robotic2000k (1 месяц назад)
This is 2018, what happened eventually? Anybody knows or can point to a recent source?
Maaifoedie De La Rey (1 месяц назад)
If I had invested $40K in such a rooftop solar system in 365 days/year sunny area, and the public utility co wants to screw me like that afterwards, here's what I'd do : Invest a couple of thousand more in high capacity battery & inverter system, and disconnect from the grid completely - power all your devices from solar. It's completely doable : Switch lighting to low watt bulbs, the modern TV , PC etc uses a pittance of Watts - switch over to LP gas (not that expensive over long run) oven, fridge/freezer & water geyser. Virtually all home devices these days are low power. Really the only remaining appliance in a home that uses any significant amount of power is your washing machine - by getting the right model & proper planning you can cut down it's Watts per month as well.
Bram Moerman (1 месяц назад)
When Party A changes the rules. . . Party B learns how to play the game. Be warned, the Warren Buffets of the world
AntiSocial Atheist (1 месяц назад)
I kinda wish I hadn't watched this. I liked Warren Buffett. Now I'm not so sure.
captaingordon (1 месяц назад)
This will make you sizzle... Try explaining this to your grandchildren. Killing US softly. The clearest example of how corrupt America is.
kered (1 месяц назад)
Um hello. This isn't exclusive to Nevada. The whole.of Australia has gone through the same thing from 2011-present.
Henry Nine (1 месяц назад)
People Should find a way to rely 100% Fully on their Solar Panels and disconnect from the main grid altogether.
P Guid (1 месяц назад)
Solar panels are too expensive and don’t do enough
oswiecacz ciemnoty (1 месяц назад)
intresting CEO's of solar statements evil Buffett, what really should happen is freedom of choice without government subsidies. live in Colorado still don't understand why people would put solar unless you got some money to burn, the only thing that makes me happy out of this all stupidity the biggest loser is Chinese economy
Jesse Lute (1 месяц назад)
The problem is these people want their cake and eat it too you can't have solar make your own power with them when the Sun's gone say I need power which I don't understand is is when you put solar on your roof You're not paying the electric company when you normally would be sir now all of a sudden these monopolies don't have the same income anymore to keep up their infrastructure they don't have these exact same kilowatt hours going out every single moment you say 17000 homes now have solar let's make it $200 a month before solar and $10 a month after soul who's gonna make up that $190 that they're used to getting I'm not trying to play devil's advocate but you gotta look at it at both ends if you want freedom you gotta have solar panels with the 12 V system in your home next to your grid so that way the government can't bitched about you having regularly or electricity but you're just using your 12 V system 3648X cetera you don't need to put an inverter in they have 12 Volte systems that you can install and run every single thing on your home with 12 or 24v
alfriedar (1 месяц назад)
Bring on Tesla batteries....screw buffet
Vore Real Estate (1 месяц назад)
Hit Reset Button (1 месяц назад)
Only in F--king America. Sad. Only when the rich 1% are removed from society by reclamation of assets or by other means will the American people start to advance once again as a nation together as one.
rg3825 (1 месяц назад)
GET OFF THE GRID. That is the promise of solar. That's your leverage. Independence. You certainly represent competition to forces far more powerful. I'm sad you didn't see that before. I hope others learn from this excellent video.
not your damn business (1 месяц назад)
but....isnt there an argument? they use the grid system like everybody else. its not like they are independent of the grid. the conduit system must be maintained and all....
Jason Smith (1 месяц назад)
This isn't the full story. An over abundance of solar power homes makes it hard on the grid to power everything else. And solar isn't as clean as people make it out to be. Sure the power you receive at home is clean but the process of making the panels is by far not.
FJ707 (1 месяц назад)
Buffet just wants your money he don’t care for your welfare lmao
nafiu bhutto (1 месяц назад)
Guess what Bloomberg's owner is Warren Buffet
Asaad Dennis (1 месяц назад)
Elon musk I’m 100% behind you.
OzPol (2 месяца назад)
In Australia at the moment you can get a 6kW PV set for aud$4k. I don't know why in the US you pay us$48k.
ettekamba6969 (2 месяца назад)
american capitalism means slavery systems.for the 1%
Twelve Wing Productions (2 месяца назад)
A couple things here... Firstly, Nevada doesn't set the course for the nation. Sorry, it just doesn't. That honor goes to the grinders of economic scale. California, Texas, New York.. A few others. Secondly, this is one law away from being a moot point. Any reading this, join me and the Energy Sovereignty Project to get just one law changed... nationwide. Currently, if you disconnect your home from your electricity grid there is a law that will pull your right to occupy it. The idea behind this law dates way back to a time when there was no alternative. A home without power would be seen as a blight and perhaps an unsuitable place to raise children. It is the current state of solar now that a solar equipped home in most latitudes of the US the system is able to provide over 90% of the home's needs when home batteries are installed. In many latitudes and elevations 100% is easily possible. The truth is that these homes should not go off grid, but equally valid is that they should not be forced to be on the grid because that removes the leverage on the part of the home owner to take charge of their own production and use of power. So please... join us in calling in a loud and unified voice to put an end to mandated grid tied connections. The effect of this one law change will bring the utility companies back to the bargaining table and force them to treat those who have invested in solar with the respect they deserve.
Victor White (2 месяца назад)
Elon Musk to the President and buffet to the grave
Mar B (2 месяца назад)
Hopefully the batteries will start being produced that can power a house off grid. I think it is in the future - just not sure how long it will take. Once reliable batteries are available, just cut the power with the electric company. We have had solar since 2001 in San Diego County. We are grid tied. They have raised monthly fees from $5 to $10. They charge 12 cents per KW to customers (Maybe even 23 to 48 cents per KW now). They pay us 4 cents per KW for any excess we make during the year. We used to not pay anything. Now we pay about $60 per year. Pretty much the raise in monthly fees.
Iconoclasta Total (2 месяца назад)
WB is a SOB zionist.
Anthony Dunn (2 месяца назад)
The problem wasn't that people bought solar panels, it's that we don't have an actual fucking democracy!
Tyler Durden (3 месяца назад)
The sun is not the greatest nuclear reactor in the universe (facepalm)
Alto's Music Lab (3 месяца назад)
I've been saying Buffet/Gates have done NOTHING for humanity, they are theives. Elon is what I want my kids and grandkids to be like. He's not greedy. This profit for the cause of profit and short term wins over smart long term thinking is OVER. Ive had enough, you?
S McDonald (3 месяца назад)
vote no
Robert Schlie (4 месяца назад)
Buffett is not a visionary he is out for himself, there is no comparison.
Buzz Fletcher (4 месяца назад)
This is garbage. Warren Buffet...you are garbage. Currently boycotting all Berkshire Hathaway subsidiaries products.
Layback Studios (4 месяца назад)
Unlawful punishment. There. Won the court case.
bernardo olarte (4 месяца назад)
i guess this is another moat for ass hole greedy warren
Mihai Ciubotaru (4 месяца назад)
The sooner you will understand that Wall Street in just a bunch of thugs.. bribing their puppets in the parliament and government....the better..Do something!!
CLow (5 месяцев назад)
Support the constitution! We don’t want a dictatorship
The pepper man (5 месяцев назад)
It's very sad seeing that humans will trash their own planet for a piece of paper that they already have millions of
Richard Dixon (5 месяцев назад)
Solar is totally uneconomical, folks lied to by Elon foud out. He suckered subprime financially illiterate people
gunsofaugust1971 (5 месяцев назад)
Buffett is terrible. Do you know he eats MacDonald's everyday? No sense of wonder or curiosity; just money money money. Simple fuck who happens to be a savant at one thing. He's not to be extolled.
gunsofaugust1971 (5 месяцев назад)
What does that even mean?
Richard Dixon (5 месяцев назад)
gunsofaugust1971 you poor people are triggered
Sarabjit Riar (5 месяцев назад)
biggest in the our solar system bitch ! not the universe dummy !!
J Kafle (5 месяцев назад)
Back in the days , a baby company named Apple was fighting with 'Father of Computer' IBM ? A college dropout hippy called Steve was in charge !
Robert Kelly (6 месяцев назад)
Get rid of the narrator. She makes me want to kill my dick. Also put in a power wall and stop paying Buffett all together.... Fucking americans
tuff ute (6 месяцев назад)
In the Long Term you will always win if you got Solar panels its the future
Little Cripple (6 месяцев назад)
So *destroying the market* = anti-capitalism *Breaking contracts* anti-capitalism *Buying up politicians* anti-capitalism. Thank fuck for the media and voting with your feet. I dare say nearly everyone here, friends family etc will avoid that electric company Buffet owns and that'll destroy them. Now if it was a tyrannical government they'd all be jailed for not paying bills (taxes), protesting etc. A some what similar analogy was Nazi Germany's Beetle car. The people collected stamps to pay for it, but miss one payment and no car, and in the end none of them got cars anyway as the frames were used for military vehicles. Anyone complaining about the market should remember the difference between bad government supply and bad business supply. (Or even government at its best still has shitty, expensive supply).
Seán O'Nilbud (6 месяцев назад)
Disconnect completely from the grid. If there's sun 340 days of the year a petrol/propane powered generator can carry the slack.
Pham Cuong (6 месяцев назад)
Warren invested Billions in renewable energy himself. He fights against solar because he still owns a lot of shares in those utilities companies. Sooner or later, solar will take over the market. It’s not random that they work so well in Europe but not here in the US. Utilities companies will do everything they can to crew solar customers by changing the rates and the rates structures. As a former solar salesman, I recommend batteries for homeowners. Batteries will be affordable soon since more and more companies are mass producing them now. If you have solar and struggle with true-up bills, I recommend looking into temporary batteries or what I called smart batteries like what JLM has, the company I used to work with. It might help you get away from the insane utility rates change.
Richard Dixon (5 месяцев назад)
Pham Cuong you are a snakeoil salesmen screwing poor old people
jeff5wms (6 месяцев назад)
That was depressing.
Pichenda Nou (6 месяцев назад)
SolarCity lose the war in Nevada 2016, now winning in California.
streglof (6 месяцев назад)
In America: Companies > Ordinary people
taroctg (6 месяцев назад)
Death to Warren Buffet :P
Rohit Shinde (6 месяцев назад)
Buffet has more than 100B in cash. How much more money he is gonna suck from poor. He is dirty businessman.
JK W (6 месяцев назад)
Install power and cut the cord permanently. Go completely off grid. Problem solved.
Grant Smith (6 месяцев назад)
Everybody hang in there Elon will figure out a storage solution. the sleeping giant has to awaken before it gets slain
Pragmatic Dreamer (6 месяцев назад)
I think if Elon Musk had more power it would be better for your wallet and the environment
None none (6 месяцев назад)
People don't seem to understand that it costs money to maintain the Grid. That costs needs to be paid by all the customers that use that grid. Solar doesn't make enough power to power a house they still need the grid. What you are seeing here is the price of grid collapse a problem that occured in Germany. Setup solar panels everywhere but no cost management tools to pay for the grid. Even if solar panels can feed power back into the grid this does not off set the costs. They can only feed power in at day and then there will shortage at night. That's not really how a grid works it needs to provide a stable amount at all times so it doesn't blow. so same amount at the day and night with surplus of demand. Or a rolling black out.
Hans Kramer (6 месяцев назад)
Money right off the bat. $48,000. Cost to planet. You think you can buy 8 years of electricity up front instead of by the month? You get what you pay for but it can be broken so you can't guarantee the grid electricity. Service is service with considerations at stake like workers coming to help you have electricity for 8 years unbroken. Go paperless billing and save real money.
Eric Mann (6 месяцев назад)
In what way Is the sun the biggest nuclear reactor in the universe
Shaihaan (7 месяцев назад)
...biggest nuclear reactor in the universe? You know that's not true, right?
Niles (7 месяцев назад)
It's perfectly clear which billionaire should triumph. This is a classic example of the monster that America has created by allowing large corporations to control basic human needs. Why are the American people not doing anything about this, instead they just stay down after being kicked, allowing one company to roll over them. Get your alternative energy going enough to completely be off the grid and refuse to pay the power company. What are they going to do, cut off your power?
John Wallis (7 месяцев назад)
They need powerwalls and other home battery’s to fully disconnect which legally means that you won’t owe anything to the grid because you won’t even be their customer.
outplayed 725 (7 месяцев назад)
don't worry u will win in the long run.
Midironica (7 месяцев назад)
It's a little simplistic to look at the power companies actions as purely being efforts by Warren Buffett to drive out competition. They do have a point when they claim that the power grid needs to be maintained. Until all of our houses can go completely off the grid with panels and battery packs...we will need a power grid, and those grids need paid people to maintain them and material with which to repair and update them. Now, the forcing people with solar to pay MORE than they would normally is a bit ridiculous. I get that the reverse flow of energy from house to grid can put strain on existing infrastructure....but making people pay more just looks punitive and gives credence to people who think this is all a big business move by Buffett.
Bytes Crafter (7 месяцев назад)
Phillippines please.
johnabuick (7 месяцев назад)
I thought Buffet was smarter than that, you think he would be investing in solar since the future for hydrocarbon is doomed.
meh (7 месяцев назад)
Downvoting Elon Musk fanboys on YouTube is my favorite hobby.
Tristan Möller (7 месяцев назад)
The right thing for Warren Buffett to do wouldn’t be to drive the competition out of the country by changing laws and in the process screwing people buying solar. It would be to start offering solar. Start selling and be better than your competitor. Even if he wanted to stay a monopoly, that’s how he should’ve done it.
The Rock (7 месяцев назад)
Navada is very very very very very BEAUTIFUL ♥️
frank boggia (7 месяцев назад)
get off that grid! people have lived and prospered without electricity ever since humans came into being!
Greg Savacool (7 месяцев назад)
Fuck Warren buffet. I understand that ok, help pay for the grid, but now it's coming down to the profit line. Fuck profit, if everyone could give up profit then everyone could be getting what they need instead of a few having everything and everyone else having nothing. If everyone needs evidence of this just look at small self sustainable communities. No one works all day everyday for scraps, but everyone puts a little bit in and everyone is taken care of.
mohit aggarwal (7 месяцев назад)
Buffet has invested in so many bad businesses. One such business is Coca-Cola. I don't know what's the point of doing charities if your primary business is lethal for the society
David Azinger (7 месяцев назад)
Eminant domain. Have the govt. "SEIZE" the power company. The Warren Buffett worshippers fail to realize he contributed to the collapse of the economy in 2008 with Moody's. This guy doesn't care about the economy; he doesn't even care about his own grandchildren. Google Nicole Buffett on Oprah you see what I'm talking about.
classicForTwins (7 месяцев назад)
Monopoly is a communist system more than a capitalist system. It uses the state and regulation to get an unfair advantage.

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