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Living Fence and Woven Walls - An In-Depth discussion of design and implementation

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http://www.edibleacres.org This is a LOOONG one! I take a very thorough look at our living fence system. In this fence there is a combination of dead branches piled up with pollarding and coppicing happening of living existing shrubs and trees. On the inside of this initial fence setup is planted food forest elements to fill out and provide more protection as well as yields for human use. This whole process puts to use material being generated in the clearing of shrub land and establishes an incredibly rich soil and diverse habitat for wildlife. Edible Acres is a full service permaculture nursery located in the Finger Lakes area of NY state. We grow all layers of perennial food forest systems and provide super hardy, edible, useful, medicinal, easy to propagate, perennial plants for sale locally or for shipping around the country... http://www.edibleacres.org/purchase - Your order supports the research and learning we share here on youtube. We also offer consultation and support in our region or remotely. http://www.edibleacres.org/services Happy growing!
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Griffon129 (1 месяц назад)
Hedge rules!!!
Carla Garrett (1 месяц назад)
can't say you've shown this updated with time and summer. any chance?
EdibleAcres (1 месяц назад)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwzVkKIwF70 Thanks!
David Fricker (4 месяца назад)
The animals LOVE your fence
e stan (7 месяцев назад)
Finally, after watching thousands of videos, somebody who makes sense. I am starting this year applying your ideas, no till, courage and counting my blessings for my few acres I worked so hard to have.
Brandon Burrell (9 месяцев назад)
Wild tiger!
Annie Gaddis (9 месяцев назад)
Wow, wish I had all that knowledge.
Perimeter Permaculture (10 месяцев назад)
Are you just sticking the willow and poplar cuttings (whips?) just straight into the ground? Or are you rooting them in another location first?
EdibleAcres (10 месяцев назад)
In this case just sticking them in.
Gardening in the Hudson Valley (10 месяцев назад)
You planted 450 blue indigo? Wow. I planted 80 willows this year and thought that was a lot. Did you start them from cuttings? I'm amazed you have so much to plan I'm guessing you are a propagating machine.
1winifredallison (1 год назад)
In the 1980's my husband made a stump fince on one of our property lines, it has a life of it own at this point .
suzanna w (1 год назад)
Dear wall people, please consider asparagus and/ rosemary walls. Asparagus grows wild in SC and ignored by wildlife, such that we can cultivate mature plants, making big beds. Even the pigs and chickens don't like it! (Baby asparagus sprouted inside the chicken coop doorway). Apparently , only people and asparagus beetles like asparagus ! Birds like the berries though.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Deer slam our asparagus here, for some reason! Oh well!
Theresa George (1 год назад)
Honestly, Sean, watching and listening to your videos is almost like putting on my favorite music. It is so peaceful and enjoyable and at the same time gets me all excited about digging, growing, building, loving and also simply patiently waiting for all the dances with the earth, dances that you document for us. Your library of information and conversation has become part of my system of self calming and self educating - and even self discipline. It is unique and brilliant. Hugs to Sasha and you and thanks! xoxo - t
Theresa George (1 год назад)
PS I think my favorites are the ones about water, in general. I have always loved moving water and digging and watching it follow pathways. I particularly love "Hand Digging Ponds!"
Theresa George (1 год назад)
And yet, completely true. I love them.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Wow Theresa, what a very deep compliment! Its wonderful to know these videos are resonating so much for you. Hopefully there are some useful things coming out of them for people, its been an enjoyable process developing the channel and I'll keep making these so long as there is interest! I hope life in VT is going well for you! We miss ya!
DAS (1 год назад)
Your "living fence" looks like a hell of a fire hazard...
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
It hasn't burst into flame yet. So thats good...
Marie Joyce (1 год назад)
a beautiful holistic approach, thanks : )
Jan Coldwater (1 год назад)
Very smart. If I ate meat, those deer path traps would be useful! I like the idea more for the fact that it would deter humans and house wildlife! I would plant thorn bushes throughout!
Fort Bumper (1 год назад)
this type of fence is very good probably the best we ever used thank you for sharing those fine ideas
PaisleyPermaculture (1 год назад)
Looking forward to more updates on the hedgerow. As usual a source of inspiration.:-)
Deirdre Collins (1 год назад)
Thank you for this v interesting video. ..We use a geothermal system to heat our home, the pipes are about 1-2 meters underground on the north side of our property on a downward slope. We were told not to plant any trees/shrubs whose roots could interfere w the pipes. This area has soggy patches where the ground is spongy. My question is what type of root system does willow have? Would I be able to stick a few branches in to help w the wetness of the ground. Any ideas? Maybe reeds of some sort?
Deirdre Collins (1 год назад)
Thank you for your time. I will do that.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I wouldn't want to offer advice on this since I'm not sure and I'd hate to facilitate your system being damaged. Do research on rooting shapes and depths of willow or other plants you want to work with and see whats compatible. You can always use annuals on those areas and have yields with plants that won't aggregate larger roots over time. Good luck.
Ben Gore (1 год назад)
Great video! And so appreciative that you have no intro or music. Just informally informative videos that are pleasant to watch. Thanks
Theresa George (1 год назад)
I, too, absolutely love the clean spare approach to these conversations. I love that the accompanying "music" is the sound of wind, bird songs, and the crunch of your feet as you walk through the landscape you're describing. it would be phony otherwise, and it's delightful. Like the difference between a yummy fresh salad and a prepackaged, microwaved plastic vegetable "entree." Yum. Yuck!!!!! (respectively!)
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I'm glad you like it that way, less work!
Epic878787 (1 год назад)
Red Bud??? Never heard of that before except in a Mark Knopfler song called "Red Bud Tree", about mortal fear.
DarkHalmut (1 год назад)
How to worms not destroy all those apples and pears?
Ben Silver (1 год назад)
Sea-buckthorn is dioecious. Have you provided a suitable "mate"?
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I'm working on that next...
itsathought2 (1 год назад)
I'm surprised that tiger isn't leaving you a dead deer on your doorstep every morning. ;-) I assume that eventually (5 years maybe?) all the brush will disintegrate into compost. And while at that point you will have some growth in your plantings, will it be enough? It's hard for me to imagine it of course, because now the predominant feature is the dead brush and you have to point out the small plantings that will be growing up to replace the dead brush barrier. But it feels like you will lose the effective barrier? Do you know of an image of what it will look like when the dead composts out and there is just living wall?
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Thats a very reasonable question. I believe that transition between dead wall and living wall will be a balanced phase change where as the branches break down they'll deposit more and more incredibly rich soil to fuel the replacement plants. They are small, but planted very close and with incredible diversity, so all signs point to a lively uptick in growth this season. Should be my height in general within a year or two, then much taller than that dead a few years later...
ben capozzi (1 год назад)
That's awesome, Sean! Really great!
bradley jones (1 год назад)
this is perfect. these are amazing. this is exactly what i've been thinking but better.
ULTRA NOOB (1 год назад)
"They deserve homes". nice. they indeed do.
Rev. crismas carroll (1 год назад)
👍
whogivesashirtdotca (1 год назад)
What species of trees work best pollarded? And which ones don't work at all?
Jesse Henderson (1 год назад)
Outstanding! I've been watching for a few years now 😀. How do you get large quantities of tree seedlings? Buy bare root in bulk?
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I start thousands of trees from seed each year and thats where the bulk of my trees from from, but sometimes I'll get conservation trees and bulk bareroots. Mainly from seed at this point...
LASummer (1 год назад)
🐯 Wild Tiger 🐅
rafiqa11 (1 год назад)
you must have about 10-20 acres. if there,s snakes, what do you do to avoid them? the land just looks so peaceful
mamastaci (1 год назад)
Did you move or is your .40 acre another additional location?
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
+rafiqa11 We've got 6 acres here at this site. Snakes are great, I just walk around them if I ever see them!
Ralph Fink (1 год назад)
Thank you! Building the raised beds as you hill the potatoes. What an effective technique!
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
It seems to work really well.
Liz C (1 год назад)
SWEET! we're working on a hedgerow society here in Washington State to help pleach and plant living fences in our community. So great to see this work!
Hidden Thicket (1 год назад)
I really like all of this... except the autumn olive presence makes me cringe. They're incredibly invasive and will quickly take over any area they're allowed free reign. Apparently the berries are good for pies and birds flourish on them, so I can't say they're useless, however. I've just had a booger of a time reclaiming a native area from autumn olive in the last two years, and now when I see them, I get a little bit dendrocidal. I hope to see a summer update! I want to see all the food! I promise to try and ignore the autumn olive... if I can. I can't promise I won't beg to come hunt on your property, though.
Hidden Thicket (1 год назад)
The native area I have been trying to heal is meant to be used for prairie habitat and quail restoration, so it's not really any surprise that the Autumn Olive (and an even more tenacious, invasive lespideza) thrives so well there. The parcel of land was an overgrazed feedlot for cattle for about 30 years, then a car graveyard for another 10, so the land is polluted and barely alive. It's so beat up that only a certain kind of clover will grow reliably. In any case, you mentioned a great number of other plants that I'll look into besides the evil tree of evil. It's becoming clear that a strict, native approach is not ideal. If only I could communicate that to the Conservation Department.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I've never seen Autumn Olive take over woods and strangle hedgerows... What it takes over (as far as I can see) is disturbed sites, depleted soils, beat up land, bare soil, early succession spaces. It fades away as a canopy evolves over it... Thats what I've seen. I'm not trying to maintain a big open, early succession field, so a plant that makes a ton of nitrogen, provides a rich source of nectar for bees, makes a delicious fruit I can enjoy in late fall into winter, provides a trellis to grow climbing crops up and improves the situation for my bigger trees I wish to see take a strong hold over my lifetime... Thats my kind of ally! Sorry I've got such love for a foe of yours! :)
Spofford (1 год назад)
nice job. I do stuff like this too. I prefer the look of this to a fence or sterile hedgerow.
Harn Theory (1 год назад)
Love the wild tiger! This was my third choice in the video vote but I truly loved it and found it to be full of terrific information we can use for our plans this year. Do you have natural methods for protecting against fleas on your tiger? I have an indoor cat but would love any info you have on flea/tick prevention. Thank you again.
Denise Higginson (1 год назад)
Cedarcide out of texas is amazing.
RD Kitchen Garden (1 год назад)
this is a very well considered design. Have a wonderful day
Karan Kaul (1 год назад)
What do you mean by slash and pack?
Branimir Marold (1 год назад)
wild, chaotic pattern .. respect! ;)
Lolita's Garden (1 год назад)
Thank you for taking the time to share this. It is more valuable than you know.
Permaculture Homestead (1 год назад)
loved it, like the diversity
LouisJKalahari (1 год назад)
Thank you so much! Would you please do a video on grafting and hard wood cuttings also at some point? Also for someone looking to live and do permaculture like you are, the journy up to the point where you got your land is important for some inspiration and guidence if you would be so kind to share with us :-) Amazing work!
Look forward to seeing it all during spring and summer months, great video.
Heather R (1 год назад)
Super, great ideas, love all your videos keep up the great work!
neiallswheel (1 год назад)
so relaxing listening to your methods in practice, I do have a question, you say your production beds are weed free, after doing potatoes, then garlic. it felt like you were saying the crops helped end the weeds. am I being stupid?
Francois Gamache (1 год назад)
Amazing eye-opener.... Deer a major concern here. As we begin to work on our new 7 acres in the Pacific Northwest; with lots of clearing to do, now I know what do do with the scraps! Thanks.
Jacob Clark (1 год назад)
Creating a predictable hunting ground is a great idea
sleepermd2 (1 год назад)
I am curious as to why you did not decide to exclude the deer as much as possible rather than giving them specific access ways? I will start by admitting that this system seems to be working for you, however I tried to deter deer from certain areas only to have them eat and kill nearly every tree and bush I planted. I had literally planted hundreds of trees and bushes. I tried deterring them with dogs, predator lights, fishing line, BB gun, etc. I eventually constructed a deer fence to exclude deer from half of my property at great expense. I can now plant anything anywhere and I am no longer loosing my trees to deer browsing. The deer still have zone five, but I cannot share the other zones with them since they do not know how to share. They just eat everything down to the root. There is plenty for them to eat out here other than my things, but that doesn't seem to deter them. I love your idea here. I am just curious why you decided not to exclude the deer and how much damage they do to your system. Some damage is expected, but having every tree either severely damaged or dead is just not acceptable. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Mari (1 год назад)
Love this
Kyla Salvatori (1 год назад)
❤your thoughtful explanations, thank you!
Feng Yun (1 год назад)
Thanks for the video. Great information. I'd like to see a short update in spring or summer if you have time to make it.I see many big trees on your property, isn't too shady to grow food? My backyard has too many trees, nothing grow properly.Also, how about squirrels? Are they getting your fruits and nuts? We have more than a dozen of walnut trees between neighbors and our property, but we hardly get any. We also have few wild fruit trees like cherry, persimmon, mulberry, but animal get them all before we did. Any solution?
Eveleen Light (1 год назад)
This video is so relaxing ;)
hummpty dummpty (1 год назад)
love the blogs... well done bro
Rayne Sorrells (1 год назад)
I'd love to see all this once it comes out of dormancy. That would be really great. I also love your wild tiger, very ferocious looking
Rayne Sorrells (1 год назад)
EdibleAcres understandable. thank you for the reply 😁
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I'll probably do an update video in the summer, but this time of year I actually have the time to film and share and be present with comments and such so a lot of my videos are from the winter!
Sarah Mortimer (1 год назад)
I think you should just aim to create something using more of a hedge laying technique. Not only is it more effective at what your trying to achieve but looks alot better. British hedge laying styles are maybe something you might want to look at,its almost an art form.
Sarah Mortimer (1 год назад)
I guess it's a case of horses for courses. If this is an asthetic which you prefer then fair game to you. I learnt hedge laying at agricultural college and put it into practice for the National Trust,thats maybe why I prefer the more formal look.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I hear you. I know there are way more formal and nice ways to go about this. For what its worth, I've seen nicely laid hedges in videos and pictures that when they are first done and everything is dormant look pretty haggard. They look beautiful once in leaf. This system looks a lot less raw and ragged when its all actively growing and requires a TON less skill and experience so I thought it was worth sharing it.
IamTranslation (1 год назад)
I like the idea. Have you thought of growing grapes and interweaving them into a self supporting fence? Grapes will shoot out, and if you don't cut them back then the vines will get thick and woody over some years. You could have a nice living wood fence in about 5 years of growth. Blackberries also make good fencing because they grow thick and thorny, but they can get out of had and it is a real !pain! to trim them back. They tend to reach out and grab things, including people.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Those are both good ideas. I'm planning on adding thornless black berry to grow up and over parts of the fence and be less challenging to manage. It's a hard call on how to balance the deer restriction with the human access... Both can be a little mutually exclusive. So it's a balance to play back and forth with.
Beeper Man (1 год назад)
Do you have any concerns about fire with all the deadwood? It seems pretty wet there. I live out West and we get a little paranoid about fire.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Very reasonable concern. Where we live its generally more moist than dry and most of the dead/dry wood is in the deep shade of other growing things at this point. If you are in a fire hazard area a lot of this would probably not be appropriate.
Doombird (1 год назад)
Whew! I didn't know this video was going to turn into a survival-horror thriller toward the end there!
Glenda Ruff (1 год назад)
Interesting concept.
Ian Frazer (1 год назад)
Are you going too add bees to your livestock? All that honey and wax could be useful. Plus bees are good for seeing off wild tigers!
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
We had bees in the past, will probably get them again at some point. It's tough when you have a neighbor that sprays crap on their apples and you know your bees are going there.
randywatchingbush (1 год назад)
Thanks for sharing your living fence approach and intention explanations.. many more are watching than there are commenting friend so let me thank you for us all.. much love
Kevin W (1 год назад)
Nah, see. Now whatcha’ gotta’ do is getcha’ a big bulldozer to push all them trees and that brushy junk into a big ‘ole pile. Then ya’ put about 15 gallon of diesel fuel on it and burn it all up. Then ya’ head down to the farm supply store and buy about a bazillion dollars worth of spankin’ new barbed wire and a few truckloads of them shiny green T-posts. Once ya’ get the posts in and the fence all strung up, ya’ gotsta’ spray ‘bout twenty er’ thirty gallon a’ Roundup under the fence ever’ year to keep it lookin’ all puuurddy! That’s how ya’ do it, right there. Just kidding, of course! :-) The productivity and diversity of your designs are a constant source of amazement. Keep it up… and for goodness sake, keep posting videos of your work! Thanks so much for the inspiration, and for doing things in such a great way!
Dominique1003 (6 месяцев назад)
Kevin W , Your comment made 😆 so hard.😂🤣😁
bo ter berg (1 год назад)
Sounds like a good plan, maybe also get some drone-bees. Who needs bees when you can get a drone to do the pollination ?
Branimir Marold (1 год назад)
:P stop fooling around and just burn everything to the ground and pesticide what's left after .. monoculture everything and earn pile of green paper for some1 else xD
Kevin W (1 год назад)
Yep! When yer’ wadin’ around waist deep in fresh fruits, nuts, berries, veggies and medicinals, that dead, sterile, barbed wire fence might start lookin’ pretty appealin’. Prolly want to stock up on Roundup now, just in case yer’ system gets a bit overwhelmin’. If you fill up all yer’ rain catchment systems fulla’ weed killer, ya’ oughta’ be safe. I reckon if enough people start doin’ what yer’ doin’, by the time yer’ system gets outta’ control with production, they might not be sellin’ that gly-pho-sate stuff anymore. Sure would be a shame if you couldn’t git it when you really needed it. Yeppper. Better stockpile it now. Five er’ six hundred gallon should take care of ya. Oh, and if ya’ don’t end up usin’ it to clear out that bio-diversy plant mess, you can always drink the stuff. Company sez’ itz safe as all getout. Maybe an IBC tank fulla’ diesel fuel, too. Just in case. :-)
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Your way looks good! I wish I had thought of that first and saved all the time with the working with living systems crap! I'm looking back at the design and realizing the huge headache I'm going to have in 10+ years onward having to eat all the damned food coming out of my fence. I won't have time to get to the grocery store to buy food! What a bummer.
loganv0410 (1 год назад)
Fascinating Thanks for the what-and-why tour of the living fence
Rabidavid (1 год назад)
can you message me or put a message on here of the deer resistant plants which are beneficial for bees? i live in the UK, So i may need to search a little, should the name be specific to yourselves. our gardens arent as big as your properties, so if you could give us an idea of how big they will grow or how fast they might grow in semi shade. my garden has trees which are protected, so we cant top or lop, so have to work with what we've got. keep up the good work, your videos are a source of inspiration.
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
I would encourage you to ask and look locally since your growing spaces are very very different than ours I'd suspect. But what I mentioned in the video that I find to be very deer resistant or tolerant at least and I think would grow for you and provide good nectar. Blue False Indigo Bush Black Currant (and most currants seem deer 'resilient) Anything in the the mentha family Anyone in the allium family that makes seeds (and therefore flowers) (welsh onion, japanese negi, chives, etc) Elecampane Comfrey (gets deer browse but never dies) Redbud Tons more I can't think of....
Emma Vik-fredriksson (1 год назад)
Interesting video! Thankyou.
Craig Overend (1 год назад)
Love what you're doing here, will be amazing when fully established.
Cynthia Hamblin-Perry (1 год назад)
I loved this video - a wealth of information! Very helpful regarding "herding" deer through certain areas. Thank you!
Joyce Judd (1 год назад)
what a great video!  thank you
vertfreak09 (1 год назад)
Please continue making videos during spring and into summer. I am interested in seeing your land for what it is at all times of the year.
Punky Rooster (1 год назад)
This totally more than I expected for living wall video. All of this is very fascinating! I have never considered deer directing / deflecting like that.
ULTRA NOOB (1 год назад)
Punky Rooster yeah u can direct them rite into ur fryin pan like that
dub rd (1 год назад)
I like what you are doing with using nature to make it work for you. Wish I had the memory capacity to keep all of that stuff straight like you do. I made the mistake of planting too close to my property line and now there is danger of my neighbors setting a fire that could destroy all of my trees and plants. Have you considered that possibility?
EdibleAcres (1 год назад)
Anything is possible. I can't worry about something like that because I'm already trying to do something with the space and do my best, I can't plan for what they might do. Only hope they don't! I'd say keep planting all over and trust the more you plant the better the chance that there are good trees and plants and systems you've left as a legacy for the next generation to inherit and enjoy.
Carl Cosh (1 год назад)
Very interesting, thank you

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